xsalwayswin:
quoilecanard:
kaleb-brinegar:
quoilecanard:
tommyxvx:
The egg industry.
This is why vegetarianism is a fucking joke. If you support the egg industry, you support the debeaking of millions of baby chicks without any painkillers. Go vegan or admit you don’t give a shit about the animals.
I just want to address the classic propaganda going on here that always happens with veganism. When baby chicks are born, they have a tiny hard dot on the end of their beaks referred to as an “egg tooth”. It is for the sole purpose of being able to break through the hard shell of the egg. As they get older, it falls off anyway. For whatever reason, in this picture they appear to just be burning it off instead of waiting for it to fall off later. I don’t imagine this would be painful at all. They are not “debeaking millions of baby chicks without painkillers”. Why in the hell would you debeak a baby chick? If you would take any time at all to think about that statement, you would realize just how ridiculous it is. I’m not sure why you guys are so mindlessly accepting of everything you hear.
And for the record, if you’re vegan you shouldn’t really be eating plants either because of a little thing called pesticides that kill billions of living insects.
Oh, well that’s really cool, because I’m actually going to address how absolutely wrong on every level you are, and how the debeaking process is not at all propaganda but actually standard practice for egg-laying hens and chickens raised for food everywhere. And yes, even the industries call it debeaking — it’s a common term that is even defined within the dictionary. It isn’t a fanatical term used by vegans to misrepresent what is done, despite your pathetic attempt at dismantling veganism simply because it holds you responsible for supporting such atrocities. First off, a baby chick’s egg tooth falling off on its own is not our concern. Even if all that was happening here was egg tooth removal, that wouldn’t make it okay. Their bodies should be allowed to go about their natural process on its own without us stepping in.
Secondly, the egg tooth is not what’s being removed here. It’s a large portion of the actual beak, which almost never is capable of growing back. Part of the beaks (sometimes only the top, sometimes both top and bottom) are sliced and/or burned off because for egg and chicken production, the birds are kept in very close confinement, often with several of them in one small cage together or with tens of thousands of birds in one small shack. Due to being kept in such miserable conditions and within such close proximity to so many other birds, they often end up pecking at each other, plucking off each others’ feathers, or even partaking in cannibalism due to starvation, depression, or mental exhaustion from their poor “living” conditions (if you can even call them that). So, to prevent these behaviors, the overwhelming majority of birds (not just chickens, either) used within animal agriculture are debeaked immediately after hatching — without painkillers. Even organic and free range birds are debeaked, so don’t even go there.
Here are some pictures of debeaked chickens, in case you still think I’m full of it:





Yeah, looks pretty natural to me. A quick google search of “debeaking” will give you hundreds of these pictures. For the record, this is a natural chicken beak:

You don’t imagine that having the tip of your nose burned or sliced off would be painful at all? Are you fucking kidding me right now? Do you not notice (in the above gif) this chick’s mouth start to open wider and her eyes squinting as this happens, showing that she is flinching and crying out in pain? A bird’s beak is filled with facial nerves, it is most definitely painful. “Debeaked birds suffer acute and chronic pain in their beaks, heads and faces, because the nerves of the beak are connected to the nerves in the face and the brain… (Glatz, p. 47). Debeaked birds cannot grasp their food efficiently, and they have trouble preening themselves and grooming the faces of their flock mates, which can cause them to appear to be “aggressive,” when all they are trying to do is remove bits of debris that a normal beak grasps easily.” -source
What possible benefit could I have about lying about animal cruelty anyway? Vegans gain absolutely nothing from promoting stories of animal cruelty. There is no personal gain that comes from telling people about animal abuse, cruelty, and exploitation – we do it because this is really happening to animals everywhere and it’s disgusting. If we don’t talk about it, no one will ever know, and things will never change. It really has nothing to do with us trying to give you propaganda or lie to you.
I’m sorry that you want to convince yourself that we are lying to you or that chickens having their bodies mutilated aren’t experiencing pain or suffering, but the cold hard fact is that we aren’t lying and these animals are living such a brutal reality that no decent human being should ever willingly support. And regardless of their treatment, animals aren’t ours to use and exploit under any circumstances, making veganism the only logical response.
Denying the fact that animal cruelty is happening and to dismiss it as “vegan propaganda” is by far the dumbest excuse. Open your eyes, use common sense, do your research.
actually want to stand up and clap at that amazing response.
Bravo.